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and we have it here as well. i'm no ceramic expert, but i've spoken to colleagues on the show and i gather this is jasperware jasperware wedgwood, which dates from the 1950s and 60s. so pretty well about when this picture was made. it's not hugely valuable, but it is nonetheless a wonderful accompaniment to the image. so, i mean, it's trying to tell you something, isn't it? i mean, for me looking at this, here is a man who, or a young man who's a bit of a connoisseur who has taste. who has interests beyond the normal. and then i find myself deeply drawn to his hands. incidentally his beautifully painted hand and on it a ring which is rather unusual because this is a portrait of, what, the 1960s? and he's wearing a ring in that sort of rather unusually flamboyant way. it's full of rather sort of curious tricks this painting, isn't it? he was a very artistic man. he was actually a flower arranger. he has a shop in howarth and he also
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was a musician. he went to the royal academy of music in london where he was a pianist. so he was very artistic, if you like. and what i think is so clever about this painting is, yes, sure it says in a literal way with the ring and the objects around that this is what this man is about, but it's the expression as well. there's a feeling of sensitivity introspection, fragility. we need to value this intriguing object, and jackson, ken jackson although dead, was a considerable force in portrait painting in the area, and it needs to be taken seriously. he's not that prominent. perhaps one day he will become so. but i would comfortably value this picture at £800, 900 possibly even £1,000. but of course, its value is that it's. oh, yeah. it was never be sold. i would never sell it. no, no. these are lovely vintage clothes, but a lot of people end up taking them to a charity shop.
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why did you keep them? well, i think it was my mother who kept them, and then because i do tend to hoard things, i just kept them in the box where they've been all this time. right, and this lovely early one here lovely chiffon and lace. well, this one was bought for her when she was 21, and it was to go to a founder's day at a school in high gate in london. and that's the group of old girls at the founder's day. that's fantastic. very, very high stylish dress. so this is 19-- 1931. 1931. absolutely perfect for that period. and then this dress here? that's 1934. that was a wedding dress. it's for a double wedding, which at the time, it had a train and it had a big veil. and beautiful simple silk. very high stylish for the 1930s.
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really beautiful. that wonderful color which was so 1930s to be married in. and she was a very tiny lady. she was. well, i could never fit into it. my sister could never fit into it, and i think i was dressed up in it when i was about 10. yeah? and that was when it fitted. now, this is a fascinating one. yes. well, this one was a copy of the duchess of windsor's wedding dress in 1937, which had this distinctive high neck, which this has got and the little buttons. what's fascinating to me about this is, you know, when you think about it, wallis simpson was so reviled in some ways, wasn't she? i mean, you know because for the king to abdicate in those days i mean, it was a tremendous thing and wallis simpson was really regarded very badly. i know. not popular. except that women secretly really loved her style.
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her fashion, you know. and also in some ways, it was like a dream. she managed to get the king. you know she managed to get him and he gave up everything for love. so there was something in that that people felt-- and also she said two things in life you had to be rich and thin. ( both laugh ) and this dress here, obviously 1940s. yes, well, about 1943. yes. but obviously they weren't using silk now because we're talking about parachutes and everything else. and the thing is it's rayon. and that was terribly fashionable at the time. and do you ever think about values of these? not at all. i haven't any idea, no. in a specialist vintage auction, you know, you're certainly talking this one maybe £200. this one, again, this beautiful silk, the wallis simpson connection i think again £200. in a special sale, possibly slightly more. and this one, although not the beautiful silk
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but very much rayon, the 1940s style is very in at the moment. young people really love the 1940s. and i could see somebody paying at least £200 for this. so you have a lovely collection here. yes. thank you. and with all the photographs, too. marvelous. thank you very much. the english excelled in the manufacture of dueling pistols and after about 1770 when gentlemen stopped wearing swords they then didn't have the means to settle their differences. this is a long time before they got lawyers involved. it would be settled expensively, but less bloodily. and so they went to pistols. and then you start to see, from about the sort of 1770s onwards, this development of these very, very high quality flint lock pistols that are completely identical as a pair. and they have one purpose, and one purpose only. i always call that judicially sanctioned murder 'cause that what it is. it's amazing but in a country
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where the common law recognizes that if you kill somebody with intent you're guilty of murder. i mean, in those days, of course, it was a capital offense. but it allowed this practice. where did you get these from? they're very, very interesting because they're very rare. well, i can remember them at home from being a child. in fact, i shouldn't say it but me and me brother used to play with them when we was about 10 years old. you were playing pirates, i suppose. well, yeah, yeah. but before that it was me father's. and i think they was handed to him from his father. they go back quite a way, i believe. but i've no proof of that, though. they date from about 1775, 1780. if you were going to buy a pair of dueling pistols to make sure that you had the means to settle your differences whatever they be then if you had the money, you would get a wogdon because he just built the very, very best. and he was so famous that there was actually a poem written about him and it started off with, "hail, wogdon,
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patron of that leaden death." i can't think of any other gun maker who's actually been immortalized in verse. and we can see his name on the top of the barrel there. he simply writes "wogdon, london". he needed no other advert for it. and they have this lovely, ergonomically shaped hockey stick style butt that just sits in the hand. perfect, yeah. you really would have difficulty at 30 or so paces missing with those. and yet, the statistics show that very few people were ever killed dueling. two of them, obviously one for each party and exactly the same. and i think one of the greatest things about this set is the box, which is absolutely original. now, it needs a bit of tlc, i'm afraid. it's obviously had a hard life, but there's nothing that a really good furniture restorer couldn't do to put that right. have you thought about what they might be worth? well, the way you're talking about them and you seem quite pleased about them
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i think they might be a bit more than i thought, you know. probably over £1,000. how much? £1,000, possibly. well, i think we need to do a little multiplication. if these came on the market in this state, they would make somewhere between £10,000 to 15,000. they are absolutely a fantastic pair of pistols by the greatest british maker, and they're just wonderful. well, this jewel-like iridescence to me is good as a signature. as we look at a fabulous example of a royal lancastrian vase by pilkingtons. how did you get to be such a wonderful fortunate owner? well, it's not actually mine, sadly. it belongs to my godmother who inherited it from her mother, who worked at the royal lancastrian pottery together with her husband. and in 1925 or thereabout, the vase was given to her because, sadly, he died
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just before the end of the war, literally days. so this is a portrait of him. this is my godmother's father. oh. what a wonderful piece, and, of course, done at the factory itself. done at the factory apparently during lunch break, and it was sketched just from, you know, a scrap of paper. and then somebody, one of the tilers or one of the painters decided to turn it into a tile and fire it, and presented it to them. how wonderful to have these two pieces of art so joined together. and the face of a worker that was actually at the factory. and, of course the factory was originally created for the manufacture of tiles. it was pure chance. they were actually excavating and digging around the ground in manchester looking for coal seams when they stumbled upon a bed of clay. and from that arose the factory. very quickly the company developed. now, in 1906
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the firm launched their artworks their luster artworks, to huge acclaim. i mean, there were very, very significant artists there at that time from gordon forsyth, richard joyce, and of course, the artist responsible for this. if you look underneath very clearly... william salter mycock. william salter mycock. and it's a beautiful signature. the signature is as artistically flourishing as the vase itself. yes, they're fascinating aren't they? i don't know what they're supposed to look like, but they're. well, it's just a very ornate and wonderful monogram. now, in terms of luster wares, this is just so typically mycock's style. he was known for flourishing birds and flowers and more scrollwork. each artist was basically allowed to develop their own style. there was no tight restrictions but what they did do was produce just quality.
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now, if this were to come up for sale today i think you'd cause quite a stir. you have maybe the tile that goes with this as well. maybe it's two separate lots, but the history is all inter-linked. but i think for just the vase alone, i don't think you'd see much change at an auction room out of maybe £800 or 1,000. oh, she'll be very happy to hear that. well, i can only hope that maybe you are the favored goddaughter. i'm the only one. i'm always excited when a group of inanimate objects like this tells a story not only of your relations, your grandfather in this case but this takes us right back into the earliest years of motoring history. that's correct. when was he born your grandfather? in the 1860s in north hampton. his father was a laborer, but he managed to get an apprenticeship, a poor boy's apprenticeship. they were the manufacturer of gas
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engines and he stayed there until he joined daimler cars in 1896. 1896. that's a very important date. what you've got here is his original indenture. that's correct. and it says, here witnesses alfred busch at the age of 14 or thereabouts. ( both laugh ) a poor boy of the parish and blah, blah, blah. and he's apprenticed to henry looks like hobbes or mobbs in the town of north hampton iron foundry. as far as i know he went through the machine shops as well as fitting shops and learned the full craft as they did in those days. fantastic. in 1896 he then moved to the newly formed motoring company, the first motoring company in the uk. yes, correct. yes. it was called daimler then but previously called the horseless carriage or something. the horseless carriage company, yes, which evolved into daimler's. he then got his motoring license and you've still managed to retain that. and here's the motor car act of 1903.
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before 1905, you didn't need a license, did you? no. you just got into a car, and that was it. and here is it dated the first of january 1905, 1906, and 1907. so he had it for three years. that's it. why it's in a tattered condition you had to take it with you the whole time. you couldn't get into a motor car, or it was illegal, without your license. and then moving on a few more years he's now got his license, 1905, so he can drive the daimler. in that same year, i think it was the prince of wales bought his first car in 1905, and it was a daimler. yeah. well, actually my grandfather had something to do with that. he did remember and recalled to my mother that the prince had a ride in the car, and when he got out of it he said, "the days of the horse are limited." now, how he could imagine that from one of those things, i do not know, but he was obviously a very far-sighted man.
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it's a wonderful story of your granddad's motoring life. he was obviously a marvelous driver because we have two trophies he won here. this one is for the-- i think the box hill. bexhill. bexhill. bexhill trophy of... yes, of 1905 and it was presented by earl de la warr. and he also went to brighton, and when they got down to brighton they had trials along the front, and that was one of the races there. lots of history here. mm-hmm. lots of things to get early motoring enthusiasts overexcited. what you must do is write down the story and put it with it. the whole archive should never be split up. it should be kept together. yeah, well, it will be. something like this, if it ever did go to sale, i think would easily make between £12,000 and 15,000. good lord. i wouldn't have thought that much because i wouldn't have i would have thought a bit more
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than their scrap value but, yeah, that does surprise me. a lot more than scrap value. you're talking the history of the motorcar here. now, i'm sure my two sons would not mind me saying that when they were very small and they came to blackpool they went to the pleasure beach and then they were convinced that that was the place you went to when you died. now, i'm mentioning this more as a way of an introduction because you are a director of that wonderful institution. which i'm glad to say is alive and well, yes? absolutely, eric. in finest form thank you. good. now, you have brought along a few items today from your archive. and the archive goes back 130 years when pleasure beach first started at south shore in blackpool. but these are from our ice show of 1938 dashing blades. it was the second show in the ice drome. the first was called marina, but during that run, our managing director then saw the show checkmate in the west end in sutter's wells,
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met the designer of the set and the costumes of dashing blades, and was so inspired by the work he'd done, he asked him to come to pleasure beach and do our costumes, our sets and indeed our program for 1938. and these are examples of that design work. and that designer's name was? edward mcknight keffman--kauffer. yes. exactly. edward mcknight kauffer. it's just interesting because he's a big name. he's a big name in poster design certainly in that period because he was designing for shell. well, anyway, let's have a look at his work because we'll start off with this design because we've actually here the end result. and these girls, you know, the chorus line, if you will. i'm full of admiration for these girls because not only could they dance but they could dance on ice as well. so that's one that i particularly like. but i do also like this. well, it's a fascinating thing. there's all sorts of influences there
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and, i mean, picasso is one. and on top of that, you know there's sort of elements of sort of russian constructivism. but without making this too much of an art lesson, the overall effect is quite, quite dramatic. but he's happy in that vein, but he's also doing this sort of thing, as well. so he can turn his hand to sort of classical costume. so how many in the archive? that's what i'd like to know. we have 18 of these, but the archive, of course, is enormous. well, i mean, these things they just do not turn up you know, on the art scene. they don't turn up at auctions to the best of my knowledge, anyways. so it's a bit of a stab in the dark when it properly comes to putting a value on what you've got there but i wouldn't hesitate to say between £6,000, maybe 7,000. and, well, you know, to be honest with you, the proof of the pudding would only be in the selling.
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but that is a situation that's never going to occur. i don't think so. thank you. thank you, eric, very much indeed. so really a very unusual subject, the crucifixion on the back of a watch. indeed, yes. are you a very religious man or not? not particularly, no. so what appeals to you about this watch? it's been in the family for a number of years. it belongs to my son. his grandfather left it to him. it was given to him by his father, so it's been in the family for quite a few generations. right. well, as i say, it's a very, very unusual scene on a watch. and just looking at it i see we've got a very intriguing inscription all around the band here in latin. and i notice you've got a little translation there. what exactly does it say? "stay awake because you do not know the day or the hour."
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well, very intriguing, eh? mm-hmm. and this is even more intriguing. open the back, and of course it's a silver watch. we've got the cuvette signed by a maker called ratel r-a-t-e-l, with an address in paris and underneath it says "horology to the pope." well, i don't know this man and i have never, ever seen a watch before signed watchmaker to the pope. the watch itself is, well, there it is. it is a keyless winding, swiss movement fairly late. the latter part of the 19th century. as i say, very intriguing inscription a very intriguing back and, wow look at that dial. i've never seen anything like that before in a watch. i believe all the numerals are the stations of the cross.
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right. the hand is the spear, i think there's the sponge and nails on the other hand. there is. there's a hammer the nails where christ was nailed to the cross. it is absolutely incredible. the enamel is mint. it's perfect. i see we've got two different things. we've got sort of things in red around there, and then there's an arrow down in that 6:00 position that drops us down to the outer ring, which as you say are the stations of the cross. and it's all enameled, obviously, in french. and then we've got the maker's name, ratel, within that basically crown of thorns in the center. just suffice to say it's very, very scarce and a very difficult one to price up. i'm going to have a little guess. it's so unusual, those inscriptions on the dial, and the hands particularly are just superb quality.
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yes. so i'm going to suggest something between £3,000 and 4,000. oh, very nice. you happy with that? i'm indeed very happy. that's a nice thing to be handed down to the family. i think it's great and i'm sure you'll continue to do so. oh, yes. well, we've had a lot of things in the antiques roadshow and i think we even once had john lennon's toilet but what made you think of bringing this toilet seat in today? because it came from the old conservative club on victoria street and it's part of blackpool's history. that was in the conservative club when the conservative party conferences were here. when the conference ended, it was like a herd of wildebeests getting to the club first. all the mps running. to get on this? to get on that. the prime minister had the edge on them. was he a faster runner?
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he'd better have been. well, the thing is the nice thing, it's even got its date here. 1899. now, this was a nice early thing. you know, the blackpool conservative club, they were absolutely right at the forefront because flush toilets were quite new. so this was quite-- i mean, that's probably why they ran as well because to see it, you know, it was a very nice thing. and the whole thing about this it's a lovely piece of, as you say social history. and you really do wonder not to put too fine a point on it, who sat here. i wonder. i think they should've had a visitors book and signed it. now, you know, do we think winston sat on this with his cigar? i think so. i think so, too. debating whether to put income tax up for apples. ( both laugh ) well, that's fantastic and i love it. so it's when this was knocked down that they took it? yeah, they took it to another club and it was pushed in the cellar and they didn't sort of value its worth.
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and one day the chairman knocked his ankle on it and he said, "get rid of that so-and-so thing." i said, "can i have it?" and he said, "well, yeah if you want it." i didn't even have a bag. i walked through the streets carrying it home. so you're quite attached to this seat? oh, yes. oh, yes. yes, i am. what's it worth? do you know? do you have any idea what it's worth? monetary value i would think nothing, but novelty, entertainment certainly historical. i think-- i think it's fabulous. isn't it marvelous? i mean, here we are, this wonderful setting of the blackpool tower and here we've got the blackpool tower. so what's your actual connection with this amazing object? i'm lucky enough to be the general manager of the tower. i've been here for six years now, and we're custodians of the model and of the building, hopefully for many years to come. wonderful.
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this inscription down here, how this was presented to john bickerstaffe now, who was he? john bickerstaffe was the mayor of blackpool in the 1800s and he went to paris and saw the eiffel tower and said, "we want one of those for blackpool." in actual fact they built a tower that is 518 feet, nine inches to the top of the tower, but at the bottom, being very clever victorians decided to build an entertainment complex to make a bit of money. and so 1898 is actually when the tower was opened. we were opened in 1894 but this was actually presented to mr. bickerstaffe in 1898. right. that's interesting because the hallmark's there of the sheffield and it's the firm of john round, a very famous sheffield firm and there actually 1897, so with that year earlier with the inscription. what i think is lovely, though, and when we look at the fantastic detail of this, right down to what was actually happening in each section.
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billiards, café, restaurant. then we've got the circus pavilion concerts, dancing, and a variety show. now, there's what appears to be tarnish over here. what actually happened at some stage, perhaps 20, 30 years ago this was all lacquered. well, i can perfectly understand. i mean, this is a cleaning nightmare. this is the cleaning job from hell. and clearly, they decided it was a very good idea to have the whole thing-- it's basically a nail varnish type lacquer but after 10, 15 years it begins to deteriorate and that's what happened there. it's getting to the stage where it really needs looking at again. the detail coming up here, though is absolutely fantastic, all the moldings and so on. and i love the fact that we've actually got lifts going up and down. it looks as though they must've worked at some stage.
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i believe they did. i wouldn't like to try them now. it wouldn't do them any good. and then up to this very famous little top. it's interesting as well, because with this, we can actually see how it's constructed. and we've got all these nuts and bolts underneath and all the pins and so on. it's a bit of a meccano set, really. that was my thought entirely, yes. so have you ever had it valued? it has been appraised by arthur negus, believe it or not on antiques roadshow many years ago but he didn't put a valuation on it. he refused. right. he chickened out. i wonder whether you're a little braver. i'm going to be brave. now, is there any idea at all what it cost originally? it actually cost £120. do we know what it weighs? 700 ounces of silver. 700 ounces today just the raw material's going to cost £7,000. that's before you've started doing any work on it at all.
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i would be very surprised if you asked for it to be made again if you were asked anything less than £100,000 to have it made. oh, that's beautiful. it is such an amazing thing. and one thing you can be certain of, you know. it's unique. absolutely. you know, coming along to the roadshow for some people can be a life-changing event. dorothy, i think it's best to say it was a bit of a life-changing event for you because you were on the roadshow what was it, five years ago in manchester. it was, along st. beth's. that's where i met ian pickford. ian pickford our expert who valued one of your items. he told you it was worth quite a bit of money about £2,000 or something. correct. yes. and what did you do with it? well, ian asked what i was going to with the item and i said i'm going to sell it and i'm going to donate the money to sir ghent's university hospital in leeds known as gmas, to the liver transplant unit where i had a transplant.
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you had a transplant there yourself? yes. yes. and ever since then, i mean, that just came into your head at that moment, didn't it? and since then you've been fundraising for the hospital as a result. i have, with good friends behind me, yes. very good to see you. lovely to see you on the program and very nice of you to come back as well. thanks. and thank you not just to dorothy, but to all the people who've come here from blackpool. we've had a wonderful day. i hope you've enjoyed it as well. until next time, bye-bye.
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welcome to our viewers on public television in america and also of around the globe. in molly tonight, soldiers from france and chad have entered the last stronghold of the rebels in the country as they gradually hand over control of the country, some fear the rebels will return. here is a report from the liberated city of timbuktu. >> beyond remote, isolated villages outside timbuktu. the fight across the river here a few days ago rushing into the sara to escape the french military. people are trickling back toward
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timbuktu. one person had for months in the countryside. >> i heard the french had come, and now we feel safe. but i want them to say -- stay. the local chief has just been informed that most of the soldiers here will be gone in the next few days. >> we know some of the rebels are staying nearby. if the french leave, they could come back. yes, we are scared. >> the french are pulling out of areas like this in order to focus their attention for their no. into the mountains, close to the algerian border. that is where sumps are hiding in with french hostages. it leaves the villagers living rather exposed.
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nearby, we find the malian army. hill disciplined and out for revenge. -- pill-disciplined and out for revenge. in the meantime, the french are still on the move. another key northern town taken today, but the focus will soon shift back to the chaos and uncertainty left in their wake. andrew harding timbuktu. >> and now to the memo that shows the u.s. government's role for when drone attacks can be launched to kill american citizens. the justice department that the government does not need evidence that a specific attack is imminent. more lenient standards then publicly known for drug -- drone attacks. here is steve kingston.
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and under what exact circumstances will the u.s. government authorized the killing of an american citizen abroad? but the answers are here. it is a 16-page memo written by the lawyers of the justice department, as requested by congress. it is a document that is not strictly classified, but it was not meant to become public. what these lawyers do here is justified is targeted killing of american citizens who have worked with or parts of al qaeda and expense various groups. that is the justification if they pose a an immense threat to america. it provides a very elastic definition of what is an imminent threat. you do not need to know this is a bit of who what, where, and when of a particular plot against america. it is enough for these
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individuals to be linked to al qaeda because of a continuing threat against america. >> popeyes ybarra alice responded to the release of this memo? >> -- how how's the white house responded to the release of this memo? >> the white house, as you can imagine, has said that it is legally sound i pointed to a few high-profile individuals on this policy. they use the justification that the warfare against al qaeda is different than conventional warfare. this is the way the president's spokesman jay carney put it at the briefing earlier today. in general with al qaeda, senior leadership is in a continual process of plotting against american citizens and against the united states. that is fairly irrefutable. what you also have is the authorization for the use of military force by congress.
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>> the implications of this art? >> there are various indications. legal implications, legal challenges from the aclu about this particular policy. it has called this document "@ chilling. but the most imminent ramification is political. the architect and the custodian of the drones policy has been john brennan the president's chief counter-terrorism advisor and now his nominee to head the cia. it is no coincidence that this is week two days before his senate confirmation hearing. i think he will be pressed to provide further details. >> do we know how many citizens abroad have been killed? experts -- >> the highest profile with the u.s.-born cleric lean to to al qaeda in yemen. he and his son died in from starbucks in 2011. -- in the drone strikes in 2011.
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>> in other news ketsana -- in other news, hough an official investigation has found that an australian and canadian to be among the trees -- the three suspects behind the bombing in israel in 2011. it could be behind the effort to brand hezbollah a terrorist organization. hezbollah has denied being in the attack. the strike began six days ago, protesting over employment rights. they said they would defy the decree. they will set -- they will spend 10 years in prison unless they go back to work wednesday morning the u.s., has gone to work against the standard and poor's. accusing the firm of deliberately playing down their risks of investing in mortgage support --
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mortgage-backed securities. the standard imports denies any wrongdoing. the red carpet was rolled out for the arrival of president mahmoud ahmadinejad. the three-day visit marks the first of and running and leave your -- an iranian leader to cairo in decades. for more on those developments, i spoke a brief time ago with a senior associate of the carnegie endowment for international peace. why the warm welcome this embrace even, for president ahmadinejad? >> it is significant. there was a wonderful egyptian president who once said the only two real nation states in the middle east are egypt and iran and the rest are just tribes
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with flights. it is significant -- with flags. it is significant that an iranian leader is visiting egypt for the first time in decades. and with the fall of hosni mubarak in egypt, the new government there has a somewhat different feel. they are looking more internal. their politics are much more in line with islamic politics of iran. and they are less beholden to u.s. policy. i do not think there will be an incredibly friendly relationship between egypt and iran. but what we are starting to see is some relationship between the two. >> but don't they have a very different idea about the civil war in syria? gregg's they absolutely do. they do not in line see eye to eye on many issues. in the west, we call it the arab spring. the iranian leadership call that an islamic awakening. they have a very civil philosophy witches witches that would
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is -- which is that which is bad for the u.s. is good for the iran states. whether or not they're very friendly with iran is beside the point, because egypt is going to be less friendly with the u.s. >> a new date will finally be set on the talks with iran posing nuclear program. how will those talks turn out? respects a long distance to go before the -- >> there is a long distance to go before the two sides can meet half way. the sanctions of iran have taken a toll. i have not seen a signed so far -- the main person that signed off on these issues that he is on the verge of making any compromise. >> have the attacks on iran
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receded? gregg's after the election of president obama -- >> after the election of president obama, it is clear that the u.s. is in the driver's seat not israel. many people said 2013 would be a decisive year in iran policy. either we will get a deal or there will be a war. president obama would like to avoid a military conflagration. i'm not sure they will bear fruit, but it will not be a year of war. >> today, and exports -- expert panel for held about ireland should be legally responsible for workhouses the subject of teenage girls two years of imprisonment, and abuse. the houses operated with our punishment for years. the survivors are seeking a comprehensive akashi from the
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irish state pier -- comprehensive apology from the ivers stake. >> these buildings were known as laundries and workhouses. but to those locked inside, they were prisons. for seven decades, they weren't places where so-called "-- they were places where so-called "fallen within" and "troubled girls" were held. but there were simply held against this derica will and forced to work. -- against their will and forced to work. >> no one even knew we were held behind these walls. the pain will go to the grave with me. devastates me so much for the simple reason that when that dark -- the door was locked from i was never coming out again. >> some more girls judge to be at risk of promiscuity. run by nuns, they were presented to the public as a place that
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they could>> these buildings were known learn values and the teachings of the catholic church. today's report has questioned not just the morality of what has happened here, but it has made clear that there was some direct involvement in the laundry. >> i regret very much at the stigma attached. >> the country's prime minister was challenged to apologize. he chose his words carefully. >> the stigma, the branding together of all of the 10,000 residents needs to be removed. it should have been removed long before this. i am sorry that never happened. >> this is relatively recent history. it all happen between the 1920's and 1990's. they have been fighting for grant -- compensation. but what is most important is an official apology. and the acknowledgement by the irish premier of what took place behind these doors.
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>> the word "sari" may have been used in the irish parliament today, but for those affected and their families, it was not enough. >> he is our taoiseach of the irish people. that is not an apology. we're calling for a separate apology. >> someone in daud in the institutions where they were held. and many never lived to see proper recognition of their suffering. campaigners and says that today's report has fallen short of bringing the victims justice. -- campaigners insist that today's report has fallen short of bringing the victims justice. >> still to come british lawmakers vote overwhelmingly in favor of a bill to legalize same-sex marriage. this paves the way for weddings in the future.
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>> he may not be a household name but as lead singer of the band of the trucks, his songs have been heard at a worldwide. they became part of the british invasion of america, spurred by the b list and the rolling stone spirit -- by the beatles and the rolling stones. here is more. >> ♪ while thain you make by harnessing ♪ >> it has been a rock classic for close to half a century. even though it had been recorded in 1965, it was the version the following year that may depend an international hit. it made the band and a lead singer into stars.
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initially, the song was far from being one of their favorite. >> with wild thing, we just came up with these three accords. it was probably the biggest record we ever did. >> in the 1990's, a cover of their hit "love is all around" brockman band back into public view. -- brought the band back into public view. it also gave them a new lease on life. >> ♪ i feel it in my fingers ♪ ♪ i feel it in my chosen ♪ \ >> during an 2012 and only stopping because of being diagnosed with lung cancer. he passed away surrounded by his family.
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>> and now to get a marriage, an issue that has fuelled controversy in many countries. today, with british lawmakers to enter the debate. the house of commons voted overwhelmingly in favor of legalization. but despite david cairns insistence that same-sex marriage would make society's rubber, many of his conservative colleagues argued that it -- would make a society strong work, many of his colleagues that are conservative argued that it would be too controversial. are there any further hurdles to gay marriage in parliament? >> yes, this was just the first up in which the lower house, the house of commons has voted in principle in favor of gay marriage. by pretty whopping majority, and therefore, it is unlikely you will see anything other happening. but there are other steps in the house of commons and in the house of lords in which those who oppose gay marriage are
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going to turn to legal guarantees, to the church, and to those who do not agree with the concept of a marriage, but fear that it will be imposed on them legally. it is not the end of it. >> how about the attitude of religious organizations? >> they are still opposing this. there are one or two organizations, the quakers for example, liberal synagogues for example, who have said that they do want to have gay marriages in their institutions. but the vast majority of religious organizations still say oppose gay marriage. and the government has said that is fine. the law will not impose a marriages on you. there will be no question of you being forced to do it. of the guarantees have not been enough to convince the catholic
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church, the church of england the muslim council of great britain and others to say ok, that is fine, go ahead. that is one of the reasons there was a pretty huge rebellion in the governing conservative party today. more conservative mps voted against this proposal then in favor. it was only possible for it to get past because there was an effective alliance between the labor party and the opposition and less than half of the conservative party, and also the governing liberal democrats as well. whatever the results politically, this is a real headache for a prime minister who thought this was possibly an easy win to look like a modern, open younger sort of prime minister and now finds himself at war with a large part of his own party. >> what does this say about how much in england and wales have changed? >> it is a dramatic change. i saw the report that i did for
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the bbc tonight. i dug through the archives at the bottom by producers did. 45 years ago when for the first time it was decided that the doctor such road you would not be illegal, it pictured a -- it featured moving pictures of young men dancing together. it looked like nothing. it looked like a school disco. but the commentary laws, many people will find the side of this, then dancing with men disgusting. there has been a vast transformation in social attitudes. what has been striking in today's debate, very few people have argued that there should be no legal recognition of gay partnerships. the argument was, really do you stick with what britain parton -- what britain currently has which is legal partnerships, or do you go the full way and go
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with equal marriage. >> how times have changed. thank you. in an update to the story we brought you yesterday, there seems to be a fight to bring over the remains of king richard iii. someone is making a formal request of the keene -- of the queen, the man who found the skeleton some say his remains should remain in leicester. and to the aftermath of super storm sandy. more than three months after the wind and rain reached destruction, thousands of families are still coming to grips with the scale of the loss. precious photographs are among the possessions that many said they have lost forever. thanks to the worker operation photo rescue those images could be restored.
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>> i have a house fire during the hurricane. the photos for the most part were lost. i was able to rescue three roles from a study abroad trip to australia as well as a couple of pictures of the house about was burned. this weekend, we are working with a great group of volunteers called operation frodo rescue to replace those photos the were damaged by sandy. >> the images will be looked at to see if they are salvageable. then they are brought to the lead managing loud, where the team will organize and then photograph them. then they are uploaded to a server where they go online and people all around the world will be doing these four sharp restoration's. -- photoshop restoration's. and then the company offers the
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printing. it goes from the real world and to the virtual world back to the real world. >> it does not matter where you live. you can connect with a person. you can to get a family photo has been damaged and you want to help them. >> i came here today to save some of my dad's photos. my favorite one was just about walking out of a building with a bunch of volunteers that have gone ahead of him. in his mid 40's coming down, full of energy. you could feel the spring in his step prepared now he's got parkinson's. [crying] 9 >> when you work with fourchon and use alesi -- and you slowly ca photo
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emerging from the mildew and the damage, it is likely discovery people's memories. >> one of the photographs i found was of a pet parakeet that i used to have. he loved to fly around the rim and land on my father-in-law's head and then creep around and on his eyeglasses. -- landed on his eye glasses. when you care about those that came before, you realize that one picture can tell a story. >> no matter how damaging a photo is, people love them. where able to restore -- when we are able to restore them, in a way, we are giving them their memories back. >> the work being done there by operation photo rescue, to help the victims of super storm sandy. that brings to day forecast to a
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close. -- today's forecast to a close. for all of us here at the world news america, thank you for watching in please tune in tomorrow. and i'm laura trevelyan. >> make sense of international news at >> funding of this presentation is made possible by the freeman foundation of new york stowe vermont, and honolulu, newman's own foundation and union bank. >> at union bank our relationship managers work hard to understand the industry you operate in, working to nurture
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